if people would read ..

Here's how it works...

You start Neutral and receive .0166% rep bonus for each quest turned in.&nbsp The only quest available is the Frostsaber Provisions one where you have to collect meat from the Chimera and Bears.&nbsp Half way through Neutral (exactly 30 quests), the NPC unlocks a second quest for you.&nbsp This is the Winterfall Intrusion quest.&nbsp 30 more of either quest will get you into Friendly.

Once you work your way through Friendly (.0083% rep bonus) and get to Honored (.00415% rep bonus), the NPC unlocks a third quest for you.&nbsp This is the Giants quest in south Winterspring.&nbsp You are required to kill only 8 of the lvl 59-60 elite giants but they're further away and most likely can not be soloed.&nbsp There's really no point in taking the extra time and effort to do this one unless you want to try for some nicer items (Yes, they drop much nicer than the furbolg).

Each bar of reputation that you earn cuts the reputation bonus in half.&nbsp 60 quests to get Friendly, 120 to get Honored, 240 to get revered.&nbsp All-in-all, you'll have to do 420 of the quests to get ELIDGIBLE for the mount.

None of the quests offer a larger rep bonus upon turn in and none of the mobs offer rep bonus upon killing.&nbsp The only way to get rep bonus is at quest turn in.

So if that isn't enough of a kick-in-the-pants, just think that you won't even be 1/2 done with the quest until you're 25% into Honored.&nbsp :)

Most don't even start, a lot quit after a while, but I'm in it for the long haul.&nbsp Cya on my new mount.

Arem's post is only half of the story.&nbsp You must get to exalted, which is another 420 quests that needs to be completed.

Thanks for the 4at once update.&nbsp I didnt know about the Dark Moon fair turnins..

I made 1500 and as soon as I turned in that last bit of meat a 2nd quest is now available for rep points.

Winterfall Intrusion

Obtained at level 60 Alliance&nbsp
Rivern Frostwind wants you to slay 5 Winterfall Shaman and 5 Winterfall Ursa.

https://classicdb.ch/quest=5201

Good thing is I can still do the meat quest (which yesterday I was averaging 1 drop ever 5 kills)

by far easier is killing the ursa and shaman's.&nbsp I had a bit of competition after my 3rd turnin but I did 4 turnin's in a two hour period, vs 2 with the meat.&nbsp the last turn in I did the meat too, which gave me 100 rep points.

I noticed killing the ursa and shamans my rep for the Timbermaw Hold was also going up.&nbsp BONUS!

so take the advise from FantasyMeister in the above post.

you can do pretty well here.

Oh, just so you know, I had 4 Level 52-55 greens and 3 gold drop in 4 runs.&nbsp I bet I made 7 gold from the junk they also dropped, which I sold.&nbsp All told, not a bad day.&nbsp Im going to add feathers and Ill make a few rugged patches too, since I got 64 rugged skins off the meat part of the quest yesterday.

Ill let you know when something changes.&nbsp

at this moment, 1,2 years after all the previous posts, i get 75 rep per quest turn in instead of 50, meaning that you only have to do the quests ( 2/3 out of 420 = ..)&nbsp 280 times now, still an awefull lot of running around though :)

Im still curious as to if its "free" or you have to buy it.. looked on a few other remarks about it some say you have to guy others say other wise and it seems asking a GM or blizzard rep doesn't help cause they don't answer you.. im thinking for such a crazy quest line of killing and rep gaining each quest that it would be free but blizzard has yet to shock me with some of the stuff they put in here as of yet.&nbsp im currently working on it and knowing if it was free or not would really make me want to do it more or like wise.&nbsp if anyone ever finds out or someone that has actually aquired one within this time i would like any info you have. ^^ thanks.

&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp I was bored the other day so I travel to WS because I noticed my friend is farming. He tells me what hes doin so I join him. Wow this is nice...5 meats for two types of mobs to be eligeable for a frostsaber mount. Then the reality hit me and I find out I have to do the same quests X number of times until I make the faction revered?

&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp WTF? Are you kidding me? What clown at blizzard made up this fabulous idea? At least with the tier .5 quests you are in a dungeon most of the time and any undead killed can yield scourge stones. But to farm the same redundant quests over 60 times just to get the next part of the chain which eventually leads to the ABILITY to buy an epic mount? Im not feeling it.

&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp The only exception to this rule would be its more special than a standard epic mount, slightly faster, summons faster , allows you to other abilities on it (like cast) or something. I mean why do this (other than for faction) when you can run Stratholme Scarlet Side get the chance for righteous orbs (which go for 50g+ on the AH) and get your money and just go buy an epic moount from the vendor?

&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp I will say hats off and applause for anyone that has the tenacity to do this and then spend the money to buy this Frostsaber mount.

I did one of these turn-ins today, and it gave me 75 rep as opposed to the usual 50, so I'm assuming this was changed as of the patch.

I quote:

by Keliahn

Last edit: 3.6 months ago 1: this mount ***IS NOT FREE*** it is 800g if you're a sergeant, 900g if you are not.

2: If you are not a NE, you must also get exhalted with darnassus to learn tiger riding to use the mount, this guy WILL NOT teach you to ride it.

Decide for yourself if its worth the trouble

Is it still 75 (see above post) or did they raise it?

As a Nightelf it took me 460 turn in sets to get the proper faction for the reins. Not a large faction boost at all with each turn in =(

There were/are 2 gnomes working on this as well, on my server, one of which already has the Darnassian faction needed and the tiger riding skill.

There's an added bonus for Skinners and Leatherworkers in doing these quests. You will recieve tons of Thick and Rugged Leather, as well as several stacks of Warbear Leather and Chimera Leather. The Warbear Leather can be used to make some good feral druid armor, and the Chimera Leather is used in resistance gear.

wow. this quest is So not worth it.

Until a recent patch (2 patches ago), there was a bug that allowed people with NO faction to purchase the mount for 1000g. (increased price due to no faction discount)

This is a fact, I know of people who did this, and they have not had their tigers taken away after the bug was fixed.

It is my belief that nearly every person who riding a wintersaber got it through this bug, I'm sure there are a few that actually took the time to farm the faction (well over a month of farming an average of 12 hours/day), but I think the legitimate ones are very rare...

what is req lvl to start this quest?

I think the provisions quest is slightly bugged...or Blizz is evil...or I'm crazy. The following has happened about 20 times now. I complete the Winterfall Intrusion and the meat provisions gathering quests and run all the way to the trainer at the top of Frostsaber rock. When I got there, I tried to turn in both quests, but somehow some of the meat I'd gathered was missing. I noticed that this happened when the blue and white striped Pridewatcher had attacked me at the base of Frostsaber rock. Was he stealing some of the meat I'd gathered? The first few times this happened, I just thought I'd made a mistake and run back too soon, but then I really started paying attention to make sure I had all the provisions gathered, and still sometimes I'd be missing meat at the top of the rock.

Has this happened to you?

I've been pulling my info off Anonymous for this particular grind. Last night, like the other Draenei who posted, I hit exalted and discovered I could not buy the mount.

I called a GM. After 45 minutes of waiting, someone closed my ticket without talking with me.

So I opened another ticket. I was answered by a very rude GM who told me "Too bad, you should research better and see if you met your requirements. I can't check for you." He then gave me the WoW forums address, then logged.

After Googling today I found this thread and saw the similar Draenei complaint. It took me a month of hard grinding to do this and hit Exalted. Needless to say I'm deeply disappointed.

Has this mount changed with the patch? does it now have armor? I hope i havent been wasting my time doing this to get a unarmored cat. If this cat is armored im going to pull my hair out!

I went to the sight where the quest giver is and the spot where he should have been was emoty he wasn't anywhere around. Might be a bug due to the expansion, anyone else have the same problem. I just want to improve my rep.

Ok, first off, be prepared for a long, long grind to be able to purchace this mount. If you're already interested in getting this mount, you probably have your own reasons...whether you want it to look cool to everybody else, or just feel (like myself) that this is the only Epic saber mount that doesn't look cheesy as hell with the ridiculous armor and costume jewelry looking crystals on it. Not only that, but this is one of the few (if not the only) Epic mount that requires only a 75 riding skill. Yes, that's right..instead of having to pay the price of 150 riding skill and the price of an epic mount...you only have to pay for the mount (provided of course that you already have purchased the training for the normal lvl 40 mount)

The journey starts with Rivern Frostwind who is hanging out on top of frostsaber rock, with his pet frostsaber. The first quest he gives you is this one, where you must get 5 each chillwind and shardtooth meat. Make sure you grind the Chillwind Ravagers, and Elder Shardtooths...located in the northeast of Winterspring for the meat. Droprate on these averages between 20% and 50% allowing for completion of each turn in to take between 10-20 mins each, and giving you 75 rep.

Around halfway through Neutral, you will be able to pick up the next quest "Winterfall Intrusion", and I would reccomend sticking with this quest for the remainder of the grind. And here's why...

1. This quest requires you to kill Winterfall Furbolgs, which will also increase your Timbermaw rep

2. It's easier than the next quest in the chain, but still gives you the same rep

I would also reccomend getting a group together to do this quest...if for nothing more than to prevent being bored to tears lol

So, how long of a grind is it? Well....lets just say you better really really want this mount.

Each quest turn in gives you 75 rep, in the opening text he tells you, you must be exaulted in order for him to sell you the mount, and you start off at 0 rep into neutral.

so...

3000 (neutral) +
6000 (friendly) +
12000 (honored) +
21000 (Revered)
-----------------
42000 total reputation

If you're not human (if so you get about 82.5 rep per quest)it would take you a total of 560 turn-ins to go from neutral to exalted. If you do this quest 20 times (to get to halfway through neutral) that means you have to do "Winterfall Intrusion" 540 times to get to exalted.

So yeah, its going to be a chore...but like all chores is more fun doing with friends, and some good music. Both of these I reccomend highly, unless you have alot more determination than I. lol

Zero xp, no reward, and he offers the quest again. Looks like it's broken to me. :(

Couple-three reasons.

(1) The purple and white cat looks hella cool.
(2) I wrote an AddOn that says a random quotation when you mount, and supposedly it will choose from different lists for different mounts. Now, I could just go to Merethil Harbor and get another horse. But what fun is that?
(3) As a Blacksmith, I need to get my rep up with Timbermaw Hold to purchase their recipes. The second quest means I can build rep in two areas at once.

I was a little disenheartened to learn that the meat (probably) wonb't drop after you achieve the quest goals the Timbermaw turn-in quests allow you to stockpile feathers and beads and turn them in en masse. But, unless they change it in 2.1.0, that just means that no one else will get one easily. I can take a liittle (a lot of) grinding to get something cool, especially when I get XP, a few greens, and rep out of it.

Well, I just half an hour ago reached Exalted with the faction.

However, I discovered that because I am a Draenei I can't buy the mount. And yes, this information came from a GM, who told me the bug is being fixed in the next patch, and that the new races not being able to do a lot of stuff the others can is top priority.

I did two more turn ins before I was answered by the GM, and he also told me that just being Exalted should be enough, meaning there shouldn't be any need to get the Exalted rank to maximum.

I'm a little annoyed heh, after all the constant weeks of grinding, and having to stop because of the Easter school holidays and the kids all over the game for two weeks, even at 3am in the morning (I tried to get things done then), I now can't get the mount that is mine.

I was hoping I could say I'm the first person to get the mount on the new Anachronos (European) server (without transferring that is).

I might as well max out the reputation rank while I wait.

Mortanius (Theonar, Draenei Shaman, on Anachronos).

This is an INSANE quest... 45 kills not one peice of meat dropped. with needing 5 per turn in, and close to 100 turn in's. *pulls out hair*

sorry, the drop rate is better than 20%. I did the quest 3 times in a hour last night. It may have something to do with where you are grinding for the meat drops. I'm doing it to the east of the frostsaber rock where the elder bears are. I tried the area just to the south of everlook and the drop rate was lower.

Does this quest work similar to other quests in the drops?

For instance, in other quests, even if you've reached the amount you need, the quest item continues to drop until you actually turn in the quest.

If I have 5 and 5, but continue to kill bears and chillwinds, will the meat continue to drop?

If this is the case, you don't need to go back after each set of 5. You can continue to farm, and once you've got 100 of each or so, turn them in (2 sets of 5) one quest set at at time.

Possible? Plausible? Incorrect?

strange droprate...
at allakhazam and thottbot theres a ~20% droprate for both kind of meat.. but i need around 100 kills each run for everything.. last run took 150 kills.. thats horrible :(

I'm too cheap to pay for epic mount, so I decided to grind for the mount. I tried before with my pre TBC 60 human warrior awhile back, but got bored and quit after 1 day of grinding.
This time I am grinding for my 65 draenei shaman. I have couple of incentive for grinding this time.
1. I can skin for money.
2. Mob level 57+ still gives me some experience, so it is not a total waste of time.
Will keep post updated.

4-15-2007
I started the grind and. I do about 3 to 4 turn in per hour. Some times the drop rate is pretty bad. It is been 4 hrs and I'm 900/3000 into neutral.
4-16-2007
I though killing furblog would be faster, but too many people farm there. That and getting gank from horde.
4-20-2007
didn't grind much, but half way into friendly. I find doing both quests not a good idea. I can do winterfall intrusion in 8 mins, thats from killing 5 shamans 5 ursa and turn it in then hearth back. I don't have mount, I use ghost wolf with GM boot that gives me total of 55% travel speed. Collecting meat takes me 15-20 mins average. For a shaman sticking with winterfall intrustion and using both hearth stones is better in long run.

Edited, Apr 17th 2007 12:17am by okiedookie

Edited, Apr 21st 2007 2:43am by okiedookie

So... Blizzard encourages farming. :)