Once this particular quest becomes available, you can use it to your advantage to kill two birds with one stone.

Before you start killing the Winterfall Furbolgs, make certain you have done the Winterfall Activity quest. (https://classicdb.ch/?quest=8464) Once you complete the quest, you will then be able to collect Winterfall Spirit Beads (https://classicdb.ch/?item=21383) for the Beads for Salfa quest (https://classicdb.ch/?quest=8469).

This way, you shall be able to grind not only Wintersaber Trainer faction, but you can also grind Timbermaw faction as well with the bead turn-ins.

On a seperate note, if you are getting frustrated by the presence of people in or around the Winterfall camp, if they are of the same faction as yourself, try and see if you can get together in a single party. Unlike the meat drops, since you are farming for kill counts here, so long as as you are not in a raid every kill will count to the whole group.

However, if they are of the opposite faction there is one (maybe two) things you could do. First, you could either put up with them and try to tag mobs before they do. The second bit is a bit more evil and requires a lot of patience to get the ability to do this.

Just ignore the fact that it lists this as Horde only, this quest is available to both factions once they hit exalted with Timbermaw. It's called The Root of All Evil (https://classicdb.ch/?quest=8481). It gives you a torch that you can use to summon an elite demon to that cave north of the Winterfall Village. The demon will then try and lay waste to anyone who is unlucky enough to get close to it. He'll make short work of most farmers, but (and I'm not completely certain on this) until you complete, drop, or fail the quest itself (or maybe log out or leave the area?), he won't despawn.

Currently being 1010/12000 into honored here are my tips for this quest. You MUST be alliance to do these quests.

The Wintersaber Trainers are located in Northern Winterspring and pretty much the point of grinding reputation with them is solely to get Reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber. Now, pre-BC this mount was extremely hard to get due to the little amount of reputation you would get per quest turn in thus the grind was highly not worth it. Since Burning Crusade came out the reputation has been increased however the mount is still uncommon since people don't find the worth of the grind.

To get started you must find Rivern Frostwind (Note: he is literally on top of the giant rock at (49,9). You can get up to him from the back of the rock).

Outline of the reputation levels:

[Neutral]

• Frostsaber Provisions
• 1500/3000 Reputation: Winterfall Intrusion

[Friendly]

• Frostsaber Provisions
• Winterfall Intrusion

[Honored]

• Frostsaber Provisions
• Winterfall Intrusion
• Rampaging Giants (Group)

[Revered]

• Frostsaber Provisions
• Winterfall Intrusion
• Rampaging Giants (Group)

[Exalted]

• Frostsaber Provisions
• Winterfall Intrusion
• Rampaging Giants (Group)

Overview of the quests:

• Frostsaber Provisions
  Repuation: 250 (Humans: 275)
  For this quest you need to collect:

  • Shardtooth Meat (5)
  • Chillwind Meat (5)

  This quest seems pretty straight forward. I suggest killing Elder Shardtooth and Chillwind Ravager to get these meats. I find a good place to farm these is around (58,19). They have about a 30% drop rate.
• Winterfall Intrusion
  This quest becomes unlocked at 1500/3000 Neutral
  Repuation: 250 (Humans: 275)
  For this quest you need to slay:

  • Winterfall Shaman (5)
  • Winterfall Ursa (5)

  This quest you need to head down to the Winterfall Village (67,36). If you're finding a lack of Winterfall Ursa look on the hill behind the camp. Shamans are spawned inside the camp. If you see a lack of them kill what's in there and some will spawn. There is always a shaman with High Chief Winterfall.
• Rampaging Giants (Group)
  This quest becomes unlocked at Honored
  Repuation: 350 (Humans: 385)
  For this quest you need to slay:

  • Frostmaul Giant (4)
  • Frostmaul Preserver (4)

  This quest you need to head down to the Frostwhisper Gorge (62,67). And ramp down can be found at (59,64). These have a good spawn rate, pretty evenly mixed. If someone else if farming them you can hear back up and across the bridge to about (62,73) and you'll find more there. These are 60 elites however they are pretty easy to kill (me being a 0,21,40 destro warlock). The only downside to this quest is really the walk.

Tips for farming:

• It's always nice to have a friend. This is a really boring grind so it's nice to have someone to do it with.
• Riding Crop or Skybreaker Whip are worth it for this grind
• Except for the elites, you can pull a few of these a time as a 70 and be okay.
• Once you hit honored and you unlock Rampaging Giants I would only do that and Winterfall Intrusion. The ride is longer but not having to farm the meat with the bad drop rate and the bonus repuation is worth it if you can take the elites.
• Don't get discouraged. It seems like it's gonna take forever but it's not as bad as it seems. In one day I'm a bit into honored.

Some math:

• Neutral -> Friendly:

  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions:
    12 trips ---- Humans: 11 trips
  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and adding Winterfall Intrusion at (1500/3000):
    9 trips --- Humans: 9 (there'll be a bit of leftover)
• Friendly -> Honored

  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion:
    24 trips ---- Humans: 22 trips
  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion:
    12 trips --- Humans: 11
• Honored -> Revered

  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion:
    48 trips ---- Humans: 44 trips
  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion:
    24 trips --- Humans: 22
  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion and Rampaging Giants:
    20 trips --- Humans: 19
  • Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion and Rampaging Giants:
    15 trips --- Humans: 13
• Revered -> Exalted (Same order as above)

  • 84 trips --- Humans: 77
  • 42 trips --- Humans: 39
  • 35 trips --- Humans: 32
  • 25 trips --- Humans: 23

Good luck all!

Though there is another quest to kill giants once you're honored with the Wintersaber faction, this quest is your meat and potatoes on this terrible grind. One thing to take note of: shamans are the rare spawns on this quest. If i'm the only one farming the village (late late night :P) I try to keep the bottom and middle floor clear of denwatchers and ursas so that shamans have room to spawn. If you ride up the mountain overlooking the village, there is a whole ridge of Ursas, so you need to maintain a supply of shamans to keep the pace up.

There are 2 patrols that can spawn as shamans as well, on top of the ridge and in front of the village. If they aren't a shaman, they are a denwatcher, so just take it out and hope for a shaman spawn next time you come back from turning in.

The runners that come through the village do not aggro by proximity but they are social atleast to the chief, so be careful.

There are chests that spawn at both the houses on the edges of the upperlevel, and both the houses at the edge of the bottom level. I've pulled greens, blues, etc out of them, but usually get ores, bars, food, herbs, water, etc :P Some of the grinders I quested with completely ignored the chests to save time doing the quest whatever floats your boat eh? : )

There is a named rare spawn thats also a good snag for greens he spawns near the chief: https://classicdb.ch/?npc=10199

When running back to the Quest NPC to turn this quest in, you want to have all your riding speed gear on and basically make a bee-line over the mountain ridges, avoiding mobs because they will knock you off your mount.

You can eventually get very fast at this quest, especially if you can maintain a spawn of shamans up. Grouping with people, whether or not they are doing the quest, can help a lot as well.

There used to be a bug where you would get credit for quest kills halfway across the map of winterspring, but that was fixed quite some time ago : P

Be prepared to do this quest over and over many times, and to be very frustrated with the people around you stealing your mobs.
I usually wait untill the slow hours untill setting foot there.