Ok, Lets rewind a little, I see people that are wanting to know how to become a weaponsmith.&nbsp Im not sure how this is done if you are a ally, I have never played..and never will play, a ally toon, FOR THE HORDE! Anywho, if you are horde, The weaponsmith and armorsmith trainers are in org, in the back, next to the backsmith trainers, forge, and anvil.&nbsp If you want to become a weaponsmith, simply talk to the weaponsmith npc there, he is outside, and he will give you a quest.&nbsp This quest takes some time but its not too hard.&nbsp Ok, with that said, lets get to the point, I have noticed that about 75% of the people have this wrong. Im not sure what levels are required, but i did this at level 52 and Blacksmith level 270.&nbsp In order to become a weapon master, wether it be sword, hammer, or axe, you do not need to do any quests.&nbsp You simply have to talk to one of the three npc's in Winterspring.&nbsp Right click on one, and they will have two options, 1. a quest (which u dont need to do) and 2. teach me how to be a Master <insert weapon>smith.&nbsp Choose option two on your perferred weapon trainer, once again the options are Master Sword, Hammer, or Axe Smith.&nbsp Now why are u picking this?&nbsp Easy...each option gives u access to two 3 tier weapons, one being a 1 hand, and the other being a 2 hand.&nbsp If you would like to see these weapons before you pick your spec, simply go to the weaponsmith trainer in org and you can view the diffrent weapons.&nbsp What do i mean by a 3 tier weapon?&nbsp Once again..Easy..you must first make the 1st tier weapon (in the case of master swordsmith, the 1st tier one hand sword is the Fireguard.&nbsp The reason it is called a 3 tier is because, this sword is required to make the 2nd tier Blazeguard, and the 2nd tier is needed to finally make the 3rd tier Blazefury.&nbsp Once again you have access to two of these kind of weapons, a one hander and a two hander, this is true for each spec, so no matter which way you go it will be like this.&nbsp So to put it all in one sentence... You must me a weaponsmith to choose between the diffrent weapon specs, These spec trainers are located in winterspring, and there is NO quest required to get spec'ed.&nbsp Oh yah, almost forgot, the weapons are BoP, so no buying or selling, and the mats are freakin nuts, so good luck and i hope this helps.

1) The Crimson Hammersmith is a triggered spawn, so you can't just wander around and expect to find it.

2) Clicking on the parchment labeled "Blacksmithing Plans" will trigger the Crimson Hammersmith, who will try and kill you.

3) The parchment labeled "Blacksmithing Plans" seems to have a few locations where it can spawn. The ones I know or have read about are listed here:

A) In the Hoard area, before Canoneer Willy on the floor (this is where I found it).

B) Before the main boss of the Live Side, in two small alcoves, also occupied by Archivist Galiford. It will be sitting on a bench.

Ok, I've read through all the comments here and am ready to add my comments.&nbsp I just hope they help clear up any questions.

First, let me say I went in with the required 5-man party (a pug or pick-up-group) and we wiped twice.&nbsp Both times were when we very first got into the instance LOL.&nbsp Once we got our "stuff" together, we made it to the boss.

Second, let me say I am not one of the many people who have memorized every inch of every instance AND memorized every boss and every epic item the bosses are capable of dropping. I still don't know what the name of the above-mentioned boss is that we went after.

This was my first time in there.&nbsp I am a pally and I joined a priest, a warlock, a mage, and a warrior.&nbsp Halfway through the instance, our mage had to leave and the leader of the group (the priest) called a friend (another mage) and they summoned the other mage.

I explained to the group that it was my first time in there and I was mainly there for the hammersmith quest.&nbsp This brings me to a response I would like to make to a comment made by Girm 3.8 months ago (at the time I am writing this 2/4/06).&nbsp Girm says "this is an extremely long & hard fought struggle for very little reward."&nbsp How about the Righteous Orb?&nbsp In my server (Draenor)the orbs go for a minimum of 70 gold in the AH.&nbsp That was an unexpected bonus for me as each person in my party got one as we went through the monestary.&nbsp Or how about the other quests you can do in this instance?&nbsp If you join a group that is doing one or more of the other quests and/or want to get your own Righteous Orb, then it is worth it to go in this instance.

The second thing Girm says that I would like to respond to is that "there are many opportunities along the way for total wipeouts." In the next section Girm gives a very detailed description on how to survive this instance.&nbsp Ya know what? Girm described EVERY FREAKING INSTANCE IN THE GAME! The reason why I bring this up, is if you read Girm's comments (as well as some of the negative comments of others )you might think this is an extremely difficult instance to get through, and this quest can't be done, but this instance is no different in the dangers you face than any of the other instances.&nbsp

I also read a question asking why anyone would want to become a Swordsmith/Hammersmith/Axesmith.&nbsp For me it is just for the satisfaction of doing it.&nbsp I can call myself a Master Hammersmith.&nbsp Not really worth anything in practical value though.

I found the plans (with the help of the warrior who pointed them out to me) in the hoard area on the floor before we went after Canoneer Willy.&nbsp You pick up the plans and the Crimson Hammersmith attacks to to get the plans back.&nbsp When you defeat her, you loot that apron from her. I don't know if she drops anything else as when we killed her I only got the apron.

We then killed Canoneer Willy and went on to kill the boss in this area.&nbsp Like I said above, I have no idea what his name is, but he turned into a giant and panicked me a kajillion times LOL

One more thing.&nbsp Lilith is a girl, not a guy as previously stated.&nbsp She is an undead female NPC and she is one of the three NPC questgivers that are in the Goblin town of Everlook in Winterspring.&nbsp The other two NPCs standing with her give the quest for the swordsmith and the axesmith (human male/sword and troll male/axe).&nbsp Once you choose a quest, the other two quests dissapear, but you can change your mind IF you dump the quest before you complete it.&nbsp Once you dump the quest, all three will be available again.&nbsp Once you complete the quest though, you are stuck with the one you chose.

Hope this helped somewhat.