Soloed as a 55 Rogue. At their main campment, they are in groups of two, so it made it easy. A simple sap, kill one, finished the other worked great. The Ursa, however, seem to hit rather hard, so watch out. Also the Shamans will occassionally try to heal themselves.

Seemed as if they dropped runecloth 100% of the time.

Great grinding quest.

If you had the old quest before the patch, the repeatable version, it's still 6 of each furbolg, but you don't get the loot reward, and it's no longer repeatable... meaning, once you've done it, it's gone, and you can't do this version of it either. However, if you are partied up with someone, you can share the quest with them, then turn in the quest, and have them share it back to you and continue to do the repeatable quest, as long as someone has it to share with the rest.

That tunnel is hard because you need to get your faction up with them. For each one of them you kill, you lose 25 faction and that only makes it harder. What you want to do is kill the deadwood ones. Kill and kill and kill them (5 faction per kill) until you are "unfriendly" and that will at least make them non aggro to you.

Look in your reputation tab (press c - click rep tab) and you will notice them toward the very bottom as a faction. This is one you will want to build up over time. But for now at least build up enough to get unfriendly to them.

Coords for the entrance is 66.35

GL! :D

WoW Location Finder map:
http://onlies.net/wow/kindex.html?ka0403&091E23Salfa&024223Winterfall%20Village&

There is an encampment at 67,35 with plenty of Ursa and Shamans, and of course a ton of Den Watchers.&nbsp 1 stop shopping

I soloed this without dying (and without pots) as a 53 balance Druid, and while I have decent gear I'm not some uber leet etc etc player.&nbsp I would say this is a doable solo from around lvl 50 on, depending on class/skill/gear.&nbsp It's a fun challenge.&nbsp My Treant guardians helped considerably, especially when I had to fight 2 at once (which, if you pull properly and pick your locations, isn't necessary).

* A good number of spell resists from the 58 Ursas.
* Mobs do not hit very hard or fast, which makes casting and healing go quite smoothly.

Salfa Location 27,34

Salfa is just outside of the tunnel as directed in the quest.

In the newest iteration of the quest it reads:
"Salfa wants you to kill 8 Winterfall Totemics, 8 Winterfall Den Watchers, and 8 Winterfall Pathfinders."

Then it gives the list of the mobs, only the names it gives are:

Winterfall Shaman slain:
Winterfall DenWatcher slain:
Winterfall Ursa slain:

When you kill a Totemic, it does not increment the number of Shamans slain. The same is true for Ursa vs Pathfinder.

The Ursa and Shaman mobs are located to the east (and a bit north) of Everlook.

Edited, Fri Jan 27 01:20:02 2006

Im a lvl 54 hunter and i would just like to say that the mail piece is great for hunters. It is good around my lvl. It is also better than mine. :/

Soloed as a 54 Rogue.
Found the Ursa's up top a mountain at 65, 38.

The comments of where the shamans can be found are correct, around 66, 35.

Easy =D

cant solo it coz ursa's pwn me i am a 54lvl warrior&nbsp i got this GEAR! and got fury talents

If you take another quest from Donova Snowden, you will save 8 Den Watchers )

Edited, Wed Mar 1 02:48:05 2006

Winterfall Shaman
(NPC #7439) Den Watcher
(NPC #7440) Ursa
(NPC #7438)

There are ups and downs to the new system. Pre-1.9 the technique was to do winterfall activities over and over, teaming up with group members at each of the western camps. As posted above, this is still possible through the sharing trick. And now, if you do the trick, you can benefit from the new rep items while doing the same old technique as before.

Of course, this trick would probably be considered cheating. It's quite possible that it may be changed so that such a technique no longer works.

Anyway, even if you can't repeat winterfall activities, the new faction system isn't all bad. For one thing, you can now kill furbs anywhere and get the same faction rewards. Level 48-58 furbs all drop tokens which are worth 10 rep (5 for 50).

Another plus is that in 1.9 you get rep from kills right up to revered, while pre-1.9 this stopped at 6k in honored. And while it's true that the boss furb at the northern felwood camp only gives 15 now, it's also been changed so that players with revered standing can get kill rep from him (and overlord ror at the south camp). Pre-1.9 the only furb you got faction with after 6k into honored was the chief.

Speaking of the chief, perhaps the best factioning now is to camp the area around him in winterfall village, killing the chief when he pops for his 25 rep points. His respawn is something like 10 minutes, which adds substantially to rep per hour.

There are ups and downs to the new system. Pre-1.9 the technique was to do winterfall activities over and over, teaming up with group members at each of the western camps. As posted above, this is still possible through the sharing trick. And now, if you do the trick, you can benefit from the new rep items while doing the same old technique as before.

Of course, this trick would probably be considered cheating. It's quite possible that it may be changed so that such a technique no longer works.

Anyway, even if you can't repeat winterfall activities, the new faction system isn't all bad. For one thing, you can now kill furbs anywhere and get the same faction rewards. Level 48-58 furbs all drop tokens which are worth 10 rep (5 for 50).

Another plus is that in 1.9 you get rep from kills right up to revered, while pre-1.9 this stopped at 6k in honored. And while it's true that the boss furb at the northern felwood camp only gives 15 now, it's also been changed so that players with revered standing can get kill rep from him (and overlord ror at the south camp). Pre-1.9 the only furb you got faction with after 6k into honored was the chief.

Speaking of the chief, perhaps the best factioning now is to camp the area around him in winterfall village, killing the chief when he pops for his 25 rep points. His respawn is something like 10 minutes, which adds substantially to rep per hour.

Winterfall village is 67,38
You will find Ursa in front of village on hill and also out the back of the village.

i was running around on my lvl 45 hunter and came accross the NPC just inside winterfall through that terrible tunnel( I died 2 times getting through it) and was able to take the quest. now i can't finish it cause of my lvl but. just letting people know you can take it at lvl 45. who knows mabey lower.

I would've had a lot easier of a time doing this quest if it wasn't for a demon. I have Epoxy and one of the mods tells you quest level. 58 for this one. I killed all my shamans, pathfinders, etc and was getting to the ursas, while I ran into a 62 elite demon named Xandivious. Anyone else run into him or know why he's here?

There are ups and downs to the new system. Pre-1.9 the technique was to do winterfall activities over and over, teaming up with group members at each of the western camps. As posted above, this is still possible through the sharing trick. And now, if you do the trick, you can benefit from the new rep items while doing the same old technique as before.

Of course, this trick would probably be considered cheating. It's quite possible that it may be changed so that such a technique no longer works.

Anyway, even if you can't repeat winterfall activities, the new faction system isn't all bad. For one thing, you can now kill furbs anywhere and get the same faction rewards. Level 48-58 furbs all drop tokens which are worth 10 rep (5 for 50).

Another plus is that in 1.9 you get rep from kills right up to revered, while pre-1.9 this stopped at 6k in honored. And while it's true that the boss furb at the northern felwood camp only gives 15 now, it's also been changed so that players with revered standing can get kill rep from him (and overlord ror at the south camp). Pre-1.9 the only furb you got faction with after 6k into honored was the chief.

Speaking of the chief, perhaps the best factioning now is to camp the area around him in winterfall village, killing the chief when he pops for his 25 rep points. His respawn is something like 10 minutes, which adds substantially to rep per hour.

(67,36)

Hmmm. Blizzard made it sound like the several changes to reputation and Timbermaw Hold faction would make it easier to grind through Honored (12k faction) and Revered (21k faction).

But in fact, they've made it harder! You can no longer repeat this quest without the sharing approach.

After you get Revered, killing mobs no longer give the 5 faction points, and you can't do THIS quest for the 75 points.

You can only do the repeatable "Beads" quest and those beads are semi-rare drops, so you'll probably be killing more mobs in the long run to get the 5 qty beads which only one group member can loot and this quest only gives 50 faction points.

So, if you chose to go for exalted, you're going to be doing this for a long, long time.

(( another "change" for the worse, the patch notes made it sound like the named Furlbogs in Felwood had their faction increased, but they actually reduced the Captain mob in the north camp from 25 points to 15 ))

There are ups and downs to the new system. Pre-1.9 the technique was to do winterfall activities over and over, teaming up with group members at each of the western camps. As posted above, this is still possible through the sharing trick. And now, if you do the trick, you can benefit from the new rep items while doing the same old technique as before.

Of course, this trick would probably be considered cheating. It's quite possible that it may be changed so that such a technique no longer works.

Anyway, even if you can't repeat winterfall activities, the new faction system isn't all bad. For one thing, you can now kill furbs anywhere and get the same faction rewards. Level 48-58 furbs all drop tokens which are worth 10 rep (5 for 50).

Another plus is that in 1.9 you get rep from kills right up to revered, while pre-1.9 this stopped at 6k in honored. And while it's true that the boss furb at the northern felwood camp only gives 15 now, it's also been changed so that players with revered standing can get kill rep from him (and overlord ror at the south camp). Pre-1.9 the only furb you got faction with after 6k into honored was the chief.

Speaking of the chief, perhaps the best factioning now is to camp the area around him in winterfall village, killing the chief when he pops for his 25 rep points. His respawn is something like 10 minutes, which adds substantially to rep per hour.

There are ups and downs to the new system. Pre-1.9 the technique was to do winterfall activities over and over, teaming up with group members at each of the western camps. As posted above, this is still possible through the sharing trick. And now, if you do the trick, you can benefit from the new rep items while doing the same old technique as before.

Of course, this trick would probably be considered cheating. It's quite possible that it may be changed so that such a technique no longer works.

Anyway, even if you can't repeat winterfall activities, the new faction system isn't all bad. For one thing, you can now kill furbs anywhere and get the same faction rewards. Level 48-58 furbs all drop tokens which are worth 10 rep (5 for 50).

Another plus is that in 1.9 you get rep from kills right up to revered, while pre-1.9 this stopped at 6k in honored. And while it's true that the boss furb at the northern felwood camp only gives 15 now, it's also been changed so that players with revered standing can get kill rep from him (and overlord ror at the south camp). Pre-1.9 the only furb you got faction with after 6k into honored was the chief.

Speaking of the chief, perhaps the best factioning now is to camp the area around him in winterfall village, killing the chief when he pops for his 25 rep points. His respawn is something like 10 minutes, which adds substantially to rep per hour.

you can find many ursa at 65,37 up on the hill
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Tagaros,55 Paladin

So, they improved the Timbermaw Hold faction quest in Winterspring by increasing the amounts of mobs you have to kill from 6 to 8?

Haven't logged in and checked yet, but I sure hope the increased the amount of Furlbogs that pop in the zone, or made the Totem/Den Watchers less rare, because that's the bottleneck of this quest, you may get one or two of the 8 kills and then have to wander around and find spawns of the highly contested mobs before the 5-10 other faction grinders at the camps find them.

As of Patch 1.10, this quest rewards 3g 72s for Level 60, plus 150 Timbermaw Hold reputation, in addition to the item rewards. XP is unknown, as XP is no longer reported at Level 60.

Edited, Wed Mar 29 09:07:10 2006

salva is a 27,34